Q about ignition advancers . . .

NorCalRyda · Post by **NorCalRyda** » Thu May 05, 2005 7:12 am

wuddup fellas, i posted this under the yzf750r page but didnt get any replies so posting here in tech. my Q is about ignition advancers for the yzf750r. ive heard of v&h powerpak & dyna2000. from what ive read, these are pretty damn hard to get a hold of. are there any other companies that still make them for our bikes? if available are ignition advancers worth getting? ohh, i got a 97' yzf750r. -tone

dragracer1951 · Post by **dragracer1951** » Thu May 05, 2005 7:53 am

The way the crank position sensor is on our bikes there are no possibilities for iggy advancers. There "are" possibilities for altering the iggy curve with an aftermarket iggy box. This will involve new crank position sensors and coils and are available from Schnitz, Accell, MSD, Orient Express and a number of other places. Quite spendy and if it's a street bike not even remotely what you want. Unless you're after bling. Jim<img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... Cheers.gif ALT=":cheers">

NorCalRyda · Post by **NorCalRyda** » Thu May 05, 2005 1:41 pm

great info as always, jim, thanks alot man! Edited by: <A HREF=http://p072.ezboard.com/bexupbrotherhoo ... CalRyda</A> at: 5/5/05 11:43 am

ExupElvis · Post by **ExupElvis** » Thu May 05, 2005 4:10 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>there are no possibilities for iggy advancers<hr></blockquote> Ah, but I have zee crystal ball. Those are the reasons I persist with with Linux, shell script, and learning about generic embedded processors (at least eeprom ones) Those black box wizards have no lock on the situation !!! Ya know, I'll bet I'm not the only one here who would like to unlock that door, word ? (lesse, take two parts ladder logic, fold in boiling state machine script, combine I/O static properties, add some eye of tree frog........)  cvhjkthisEdited by: <A HREF=http://p072.ezboard.com/bexupbrotherhoo ... upElvis</A> at: 5/6/05 6:48 am

dragracer1951 · Post by **dragracer1951** » Thu May 05, 2005 6:03 pm

Heh Heh....Bob I have a friend what can burn eproms... Jim<img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... Cheers.gif ALT=":cheers">

ExupElvis · Post by **ExupElvis** » Fri May 06, 2005 6:16 pm

I'm going to try to put together a project for an iggy box Jim, There's homework left to do, but it would be really helpfull to know someone able to do the chip. Don't hold yer breath, but I may come up with something. There is one feature the power commanders don't have, that I really think they should - and for the price, I think they could have given the buyer a little more capability. (what you ask)? <img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... ssyfit.gif ALT=":hissy"> How about a 180 split adjustment to account for coil saturation time? Remember setting points on a early KZ or GS? If you were good, you could get those motors to sound like a beehive, it's always been a point of contention with me on the black box bikes.  cvhjkthis

dragracer1951 · Post by **dragracer1951** » Fri May 06, 2005 6:55 pm

How about a 180 split adjustment to account for coil saturation time? Remember setting points on a early KZ or GS? If you were good, you could get those motors to sound like a beehive, it's always been a point of contention with me on the black box bikes. Outstanding Tamara's an Electronics Engineer..... Jim<img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... Cheers.gif ALT=":cheers">

ExupElvis · Post by **ExupElvis** » Fri May 06, 2005 7:08 pm

Well then, I guess I have to commit - off to learn unix vi editor as my weeks project................ <img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... Cheers.gif ALT=":cheers">  cvhjkthis

Post by **jjs777** » Sun May 08, 2005 9:56 am

I would email vance and hines...see if they'd be willing to give you any help. Afterall the bikes are ancient...they might be willing. Matter of fact maybe even try to leverage someone like factory pro...since that guy is a hoot...I bet he has some contacts over at v&h -John  <a href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/ ... cement.jpg" target="top">1995 FZR1000</a>  <a href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/ ... 00x600.jpg" target="top">1990 FZR1000</a>  <a href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/ ... resize.jpg" target="top">1990 FZR1040</a>

ExupElvis · Post by **ExupElvis** » Sun May 08, 2005 6:27 pm

That's a good point John. My thoughts on this are that sometimes it's better for the sport if not the industry as a whole to have new ideas surface from unexpected sources - it gives the veterans something to laugh at. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D">  cvhjkthis

flyingcircus68 · Post by **flyingcircus68** » Mon May 09, 2005 8:40 pm

You might be interested in the following: Bascom AVR Pretty easy to learn. Atmel AVR processors are quick (10mips) They are loaded with features and a bargain to boot. I can't see why you couldn't use one as the basis for your ignitor box. You could use a table look up to map the ignition advance and switch it with a power FET. Well there's more to it than that, but I'm out of ritalin and my attention is drifting away.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol">

dragracer1951 · Post by **dragracer1951** » Mon May 09, 2005 8:51 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Well there's more to it than that, but I'm out of ritalin and my attention is drifting away. <hr></blockquote> Snerk..... Chortle..... Jim<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin">

ExupElvis · Post by **ExupElvis** » Tue May 10, 2005 7:53 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>You might be interested in the following:<hr></blockquote> Why yes, yes I would be. Thanks for that F/C, I hadn't gotten that far yet, but I will take a look. The Bowling and Grippo site on the mega-squirt F/I also mentioned some powerful generic processors, d/k if this is the same one. I have a few friends (I know, I know) that work in electrical circuitry that I intend to query on this as well.  cvhjkthis

flyingcircus68 · Post by **flyingcircus68** » Tue May 10, 2005 2:39 pm

I have the bascom program and I like it. There is a pretty good support group too. I've thought about doing an ignitor, but that was a brief thought. I don't think that I would make a buck on it, and it would be quite a bit of effort, so I moved on to projects with more potential.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT=":shades">

ExupElvis · Post by **ExupElvis** » Sun May 15, 2005 8:18 pm

I looked up Bascom, and some of their links F/C - wow, that is a big new world. I had no idea there was so much to choose from. Not a bad thing to stumble across, but I can see there is a lot to sort through. Thanx for the tip, Bob. <img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... Cheers.gif ALT=":cheers">  cvhjkthis

dragracer1951 · Post by **dragracer1951** » Tue May 17, 2005 5:53 am

Didn't someone on this thread want some iggy parts from Dyna??? Well you can look <a href="http://secure.mycart.net/catalogs/index ... gory=10278" target="top">HERE</a> Shanna Craig is a nice lady and she'll know what you need Jim<img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/ ... Cheers.gif ALT=":cheers">

flyingcircus68 · Post by **flyingcircus68** » Tue May 17, 2005 5:56 am

If you're interested in dabbling with Micros, you might consider buying an STK500 development board. Its got a lot of features to plug and play during experimenting and allows you to program chips on the board, or in your circuit. The board goes for $100 and bascom goes for ~$140. Kind of cheap for a system that is feature rich. Then you could go to International Rectifier to look at power switching circuits. Texas instruments is big on Automotive and worth the look and National instruments too.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT=":shades">

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